“No Way, No How, No McCain”

August 27, 2008 at 6:26 pm 9 comments

Did anyone catch Hillary’s speech last night at the Democratic Convention? If not I’ve provided a nice little youtube video below where you can see what is being argued as one of her best speeches ever! Obama supporters probably brought about that last statement but pish posh…her speech had me beaming with pride at the end and tears welling up in my eyes!

I even felt a little bad afterwards for not lending her and her campaign more supportive words before Obama was selected as the Democratic Nominee.

One of my favorite, and I think the most crucial, points that was made clear during the speech was her calling out her stubborn supporters and willing them to go out and vote come November…and not for McCain.

I just don’t get it, when avid Hillary supporters who are still weeping over her not getting the nomination defiantly state that they will never vote for Obama…and that NOW they relate more with McCain! I’m sorry?!?!?! Did I hear you correctly? McCain…how could you possibly relate more with him after being such a fan of Hillary? Their campaigns and values are on opposite sides of the pole and by no means run parallel.

I am 100% positive that if Hillary had been the Democratic Nominee that I would collect the pieces of my broken heart after Obama was cast aside and go out to the polls in November and vote for whichever Blue Nominee was on the ballot!

As my husband Alex has stated, and I think it’s a great perspective. Those individuals out there that are refusing to vote for Obama are being immature and petty. It’s like breaking your toys when you’re a little kid because you don’t get your way. It’s pointless! And it’s only going to hurt you in the end. Is it really worth having another Republican in the White House for another 4 years?!?!

In any case, Thank you Hillary for going out last night and uniting the Democratic Party…we really needed to hear what you had to say!

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  • 1. batguano101  |  August 27, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    I believe you have been had by the Clintons.

    Her speech last night was all about her, distracting the sales process for the actual candidate- Obama.

    You have heard the term “swiftboated”: after this election a new word will be in the lexicon- “Clintoned”.

    She did a knee capping last night, you just got swept up in the music and rhetoric and have not noticed an immediate drop in the polls.

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  • 2. Eryn Chandler  |  August 28, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    I don’t believe I was “had” by anybody.

    I realize that a lot of her speech was about her political body of work and celebrating what she has accomplished…as far as women’s rights go.

    However, in the end I didn’t feel like her speech was monopolized by her patronizing herself…rather calling for dems to unite and do anything possible to make Obama the president.

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  • 3. Alec  |  August 28, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    In the longrun, I don’t think this speech will have much impact on the Obama campaign, but her graceful transition to Obama-supporter probably did earn her a spot as Secretary of State.

    And she had to talk about herself and what her run meant because she has so many devotees teetering–towards McCain or just plain indifference. Her job was to (1) prove her devotion to the greater cause and (2) mend the fence and show that, ideologically (and even some aspects of their life experiences), she and Obama are not that different. I think she accomplished that.

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  • 4. Eryn Chandler  |  August 28, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    thanks alec, you’re always so eloquent and “so well said”

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  • 5. Paul Vo  |  August 29, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    Hillary, Bill, and Biden all said that Obama was not ready to be president, Obama needed more experience, and now was not a time for on the job training as leader of the free world throughout their entire campaign. With their Harry Potter wands, they now say that Obama is ready to be President for party unity sake. They must believe people have a short memory or they didn’t mean what they said then, but you can believe them now. or vise versa.

    Obama just cost the Dems the election this year by not picking Hillary for VP. The 2nd most popular voted Dem pres candidate doesn’t even get vetted. Clearly Obama (and his wife) chose personal dislike over the party’s best interests. She’ll use that in 2012 “i told you all that you should have went with me.”

    “No for Obama and Chelsea’s Mama”

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  • 6. Alec  |  August 29, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    With their Harry Potter wands, they now say that Obama is ready to be President for party unity sake. They must believe people have a short memory or they didn’t mean what they said then, but you can believe them now. or vise versa.

    That certainly has never happened before… or wait–my memory is coming back…

    See: McCain, John. 2000 election, yielding to Bush’s camp; reversal of previous attacks. See: McCain, John. 2008 election: distancing self with attack ads directed toward the current leader of the republican party.

    The Clintons are politicians… and while I definitely don’t agree with everything they do, they are good at what they do. I miss Bill as president… and this isn’t some sentimental, “boy I sure miss Ronald Reagan and the ‘good old days’ of economic hardship and extreme cutbacks on healthcare for the mentally ill and other so-horrible-you’re-forced-to-laugh decisions he made when in office” sentiment. There’s no arguing with the facts: under Bill’s term, the country was at its most prosperous–and peaceful–time in history.

    Also, I doubt that not picking Hillary for VP will cost him the election. Having a good VP can help you, but not having an amazing one rarely hinders you. It would be wise, however, if he announced HC as a proposed-member of his cabinet… and I think that’s just what he’s going to do before the election.

    There’s no getting around that since the dominance of the modern two-party system, this is what has always happened: people get tired of high taxes (and of social and political progress apparently), so they vote republican. The republicans then run the country into the ground, screw over anyone and everyone who doesn’t pocket 100k or more a year, get us into a couple of unnecessary wars, and then the democrats come in and clean everything up.

    And I’d say we’re way past due for a clean-up.

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  • 7. Paul  |  September 3, 2008 at 1:05 am

    See: McCain, John. 2000 election, yielding to Bush’s camp; reversal of previous attacks. See:
    RE: you’re right. valid point. mccain yielded to bush in the repub ’00 primary and then he supported bush during the election. thinking more broadly, this happened in practically all primaries. they smear and twist the truth against another and then all unite with the nominated candidate. they’re just all politicians and no one was better at that than the clintons. but despite being all politicians, it is a formal respect to show unity for their party. I’m wrong to attack that.

    McCain, John. 2008 election: distancing self with attack ads directed toward the current leader of the republican party.
    RE: i don’t understand how this supports your case about party unity. in fact, mccain’s “washington is broken” ad was the opposite. It was an attack against congress and the white house. else, it’s evident that he distances himself from bush. he doesn’t like bush since the ’00 primary; he’s disagreed with many bush positions, more than any other repub congress person since ’01-’08.
    this then brings up a new argument about mccain being labeled as “bush’s third term” dem talking point. if their positions are no different, then repub voters are only concerned about likeability and/or popularity? then it’s fair to compare that with obama & hillary, right?

    boy I sure miss Ronald Reagan and the ‘good old days’ of economic hardship and extreme cutbacks on healthcare for the mentally ill and other so-horrible-you’re-forced-to-laugh decisions he made when in office” sentiment.
    RE: ouch. can you blame reagan for having switched from dem to repub? no question federal programs were cut. He didn’t slash social security & medicare but cut back medicaid spending (including mentally ill program) and shifted it to the states & private sector. he also created a 2.1tril added debt (his biggest disappointment) and was slow to respond the growing AIDs problem. but let’s not acknowledge the trivial issues at the time as reagan entered his 1st term with 11.8% inflation, 7.5% unemployment and 20.5% PRIME interest rate from failed economic policies under nixon-ford-carter era. in reagan’s two terms, inflation reduced to avg range of 3-5% and prime interest was reduced to avg 10% (lowest 7.5%). unemployment got worse 10% in his 1st term before it got better (5.3%) at the end of his last term. positive net of 15-17mil new jobs were created during his presidency and 92mths (through 1990) economic growth. let’s forget about the berlin wall (unified germany) and the biggest communist empire collapsed under reagan. would you have brought back the soviet empire (w/ a billion lives from potential nuclear extinction at stake – including the mentally ill) to preserve the medicaid budget? how about to save $2.1tril ($2100 per every life)? it’s one of those so-horrible-you’re-forced-to-laugh questions.
    btw, the clintons had the opportunity to reverse reagan’s medicaid cuts with their universal health care plan in ’93. can’t just blame the repubs on this one. it didn’t pass through congress – the house and senate were both dem majority.

    there’s no arguing with the facts: under Bill’s term, the country was at its most prosperous–and peaceful–time in history.
    RE: i agree it was one of the most prosperous times under bill clinton (22mil new jobs and lowest 3.9% unemployment in 30yrs were phenomenal records). should reagan be given any credit for building a foundation of low inflation, PRIME interest rate and unemployment for clinton to be recognized for such economic prosperity? would the 1997 tax cuts also have anything to do with it? in 1993- clinton’s tax increase included 39.6% for top earners, raise corporate income tax to 35%, repeal of income cap on medicare taxes, 4.3cent/gal increase in fuel tax. 4 yrs, economy grew 3.2% avg annual rate (good, solid growth); effects in 1995, $8bil from u.s. venture capital investment. In 1997-clinton reluctantly signs tax cut-lowered CAPITAL gains tax rate from 28% to 20%, $500 child tax credit,hope/ lifetime learning tax credit. Effects: Venture capitalists+dot com+capital gains tax cut = economy unleashed. 1998, $28bil from u.s. venture capital investment; 1999, $56bil from u.s. vc investment.
    aside, bush 2003 tax cut (also reduced CAPITAL gains tax rates from 20% to 10% and 15% to 5%,depending on income). 6 quarters before 2003 tax cut, annual growth rate 1.7%; 6 quarters after 2003 tax cut, growth rate 4.1% and net positive 5mil new jobs over next 3 yrs. does bush’s tax cuts look familiar?
    is there an economic slowdown today? (yes) is america hurting with the housing and oil market today? (yes). did clinton and bush have economic slowdowns near the end of their 2nd terms (yes).
    take out presidential names and party lines with reagan,clinton, w.bush and look at each substantial tax cuts during each of their era. did the economy respond aggressively and accelerate positively? (yes). can govt contribute to economic improvement – it’s not all about lassaire-faire in today’s economy? (yes).

    …its most prosperous-and peaceful-time in history.
    RE: are these considered most peaceful time in history?
    1st World trade center bombing (1993, al-qaeda, 6 lives, 1042 injured); black hawk mission in somalia (1993: 18 u.s. lives, 73 injured); saudi arabia bombing (1995, al-qaeda, 5 u.s. lives); saudi arabia bombing (1996, al-qaeda, 19 u.s. lives); two U.S. embassy bombings in e.africa (1998: al-qaeda, over 257 lives, over 5000 injured); clinton 4-day airstrike bombings on Iraq (dec 1998: clinton: “saddam hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.”); USS Cole bombing in yemen (2000: al-qaeda, 17 lives, 39 injured), NATO bombing in kosovo (1999).
    rwanda genocide (1994: est. 800,000-1mil killed in 100 days; clinton admits his biggest regret for his inaction)
    branch davidian raid in waco (1993: 76 lives including 21 children); oklahoma city bombing in ’95 (1995: 168 lives, 800 injured).

    people get tired of high taxes (and of social and political progress apparently), so they vote republican
    RE:: people get tired of high taxes (and of “spending for more inefficient social and political programs”)

    the republicans then run the country into the ground
    RE: especially during reagan’s era. a simple question from reagan was “are YOU better off now than you were four years ago?”

    screw over anyone and everyone who doesn’t pocket 100k or more a year,
    RE: 100k is considered middle-class according to obama at the saddleback church. with over 60% of middle-class owns 401k, stocks, bonds, and mutual funds. if obama repeals the 2003 tax cuts, isn’t that actually increasing taxes on middle-class americans? or how about the obama’s global poverty tax- who will pay the bulk of its taxes to help global poverty, american taxpayers or the rest of the world? during clinton’s term, why didn’t he just increase the highest marginal tax rate back to 70% for combined family households of $215k or more (pre-reagan era) for “social and political progress?” middle-class people making that much shouldn’t have a such a low 39.6% tax bracket and not even adding up state tax, property tax, social security tax, medicare tax, school tax, fuel tax, capital gains tax, sales tax (depending where you live).

    get us into a couple of unnecessary wars, and then the democrats come in and clean everything up.
    RE: it can be said ditto to clinton and bush had to come in and clean everything up. did bush complete the mission (no). we are way past due for a clean-up.

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  • 8. Paul  |  September 3, 2008 at 1:27 am

    the berlin wall (unified germany) and the biggest communist empire collapsed “first steered by reagan”.

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  • 9. erynchandler  |  September 5, 2008 at 3:04 am

    wow thanks for the novel!

    in any case, “thanks” for the input everyone….but in the end. I still stand by what I posted!

    now we can move on…to pulling apart McCain’s pick for VP!

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